those nebs, you look at the income numbers. people are not feeling it. their incomes are not rising. so when you look at this from a political point of view, it's what people feel. what's their emotional pocketbook reaction? and the fact is right now people are still hurting. so, again, both candidates are going to spin everything. i think it's already baked in. i don't think it's going to affect it much. if it went over 8%, it could have. but at the end of the day, i think that their messages, what they're going to take forward and it really won't have a substantial effect. >> the president is still speaking at his campaign event in ohio. mitt romney is going to be at a campaign coming up in west alice, wisconsin, the candidates crisscrossing back and forth today, surrogates, too, between wisconsin and ohio. as you listen to both sides, they're both going to take them. dana, the president said earlier, if he couldn't get unemployment below 8%, this would be a one-term presidency, a one-term proposition.